Worrying for the players given the track record of players vs. teams in legal battles in Dota. Last of Gaimin's good will eviscerated, and a messy end to one of the best Dota 2 teams of the last 3 years.
This seems the players wanting to eat their cake and have it too. Their actions cost the org sponsor money so the org "fined" them to recover some of the cost. The players protested the fine so they wanted to play as independents so they either didn't need pay the fine or would receive the complete amount of prize winnings and money from the team bundles. The players seemed to be "willing" to play for GG most likely if they weren't fined or punished. GG is now looking for damages in lost sponsor revenue and potential earnings from the international. I don't know enough about the dota scene, the way their contracts function, or the format of the international specifically with fielding teams and how their bundles would work for an independent team. Regardless great article. I'm looking forward to your follow-up with the legal filing and potential responses from the players. Keep up the good work.
1. What were the sponsorship expectations and were they explicitly mentioning the members or were the sponsorship expectations directed at the org? Was the org or the members expected to perform duties?
2. What did the org do to remind and support the members to perform the sponsorships?
3. How much $ were the sponsorships that the members did not meet requirements for?
4. Were the asks from the org to the members equal in value as the $ that the org can prove the members did not honor?
5. Did the sponsor directly mention Quinn's comments as the reason for not renewing?
6. Why did the org continue to support Quinn after the comments?
7. Did the org support the team with what they needed in order to fulfill their socia media obligations? (e.g. did they have the scripts, the equipment and the editors / producers ready to roll with the obligations and the members flat out refused?)
To say a country is trash and apologizing. What do people expect? I and others say alot worse in the heat of a moment. Or any moment. If the sponsors are that fragile and hurt, that's on them. To be that reliant of a sponsor, that has to be communicated in-before. "Hey we are basicly owned by Russians, they threatened to cancel their sponsors if their feelings are hurt so watch your mouths!"
In any other case. This is not in the power or faulth by the player Quinn.
keep on pulling this thread, tis started as a slamdunk "org is shitty and tries to scam players" story but it seems to be a lot deeper. the level of entitlement players have is only superssed by reddit fans
Expected to read another "Org tries to scam players" story we are so used to in esports. Turns out the players themselves have to share quite a bit of the blame if GGs statement is truthful.
Would like to know what their statement would be, or the court findings as this case develops.
One banger after another. Bless you Rich
Worrying for the players given the track record of players vs. teams in legal battles in Dota. Last of Gaimin's good will eviscerated, and a messy end to one of the best Dota 2 teams of the last 3 years.
This seems the players wanting to eat their cake and have it too. Their actions cost the org sponsor money so the org "fined" them to recover some of the cost. The players protested the fine so they wanted to play as independents so they either didn't need pay the fine or would receive the complete amount of prize winnings and money from the team bundles. The players seemed to be "willing" to play for GG most likely if they weren't fined or punished. GG is now looking for damages in lost sponsor revenue and potential earnings from the international. I don't know enough about the dota scene, the way their contracts function, or the format of the international specifically with fielding teams and how their bundles would work for an independent team. Regardless great article. I'm looking forward to your follow-up with the legal filing and potential responses from the players. Keep up the good work.
It definitely is looking like a cake case
I hope during the case they will investigate
1. What were the sponsorship expectations and were they explicitly mentioning the members or were the sponsorship expectations directed at the org? Was the org or the members expected to perform duties?
2. What did the org do to remind and support the members to perform the sponsorships?
3. How much $ were the sponsorships that the members did not meet requirements for?
4. Were the asks from the org to the members equal in value as the $ that the org can prove the members did not honor?
5. Did the sponsor directly mention Quinn's comments as the reason for not renewing?
6. Why did the org continue to support Quinn after the comments?
7. Did the org support the team with what they needed in order to fulfill their socia media obligations? (e.g. did they have the scripts, the equipment and the editors / producers ready to roll with the obligations and the members flat out refused?)
To say a country is trash and apologizing. What do people expect? I and others say alot worse in the heat of a moment. Or any moment. If the sponsors are that fragile and hurt, that's on them. To be that reliant of a sponsor, that has to be communicated in-before. "Hey we are basicly owned by Russians, they threatened to cancel their sponsors if their feelings are hurt so watch your mouths!"
In any other case. This is not in the power or faulth by the player Quinn.
There's a typo in the last paragraph - "Onatario" instead of Ontario.
It was clearly written by Mario
keep on pulling this thread, tis started as a slamdunk "org is shitty and tries to scam players" story but it seems to be a lot deeper. the level of entitlement players have is only superssed by reddit fans
Expected to read another "Org tries to scam players" story we are so used to in esports. Turns out the players themselves have to share quite a bit of the blame if GGs statement is truthful.
Would like to know what their statement would be, or the court findings as this case develops.
Great work!