For one "Patrick", the util regression starts at 15k.
Richa ... ahem, Patrick, the amount of cheaters using multiple accounts places them all over the map in terms of MM rank. Many cheaters buy accounts that are already ranked low so they can enjoy the "Smurf" status before they rank into lobbies of their actual "rank" which is comprised of other closet cheaters like themselves and the eventual "ragers" who dominate the upper echelons of MM.
If you understand that closet cheaters are the real problem and Valve still can't make a dent against people raging, then where is the hope for the casual who wants to play against others fairly?
Everything above 15k still consists of only 3% of all the players. All his points are still valid.
Also the phrasing "statistical outlier" implies that there are cheaters before 20k elo, just that you are not as likely to encounter them. I guess the point where it is statistically likely to encounter cheaters is arguable, but ultimately doesn't really matter.
Been a fan for a decade, this is your worst article by far. Absolutely delusional that you can be this ignorant towards the cheating situation despite not playing the game at all.
Defending Valve this much for a literal unplayable game (especially at high ranks, which is the literal goal of premier) is just ridiculous. They don’t deserve any praise.
“Literally unplayable game” other guy is right, you’re a clown, or you don’t know what “literal” means. In any case you’re what Richard described, one of the many idiots who complain too much while ignoring everything Valve did.
Day in and day out Richard you continue to prove just how out of touch you are with the people that play counter strike. It’s evident you don’t play counter strike and do not intend do play counter strike due to the narratives you construct. Perhaps it’s time to move onto writing about more relevant subjects in your life, perhaps a blog about your journey in pursuing greater mental health.
Based on this reply I think you should be concerned with your own mental health. Which part of the article did you specifically disagree with because it appears you didn't read it.
The main reason for this is pretty simple in my eyes: cheaters get off on trolling the community by gaslighting
Let me know how many admitted closet cheaters you've come across. You know they exist, but they never are honest about it since that's the entire point. You lie that you're better while using cheats.
It’s pretty obvious by your many replies here that you live in your own alternate reality where 90% of players are cheaters. As the kids say: go touch some grass.
The irony of someone who has made open their own battle with mental health now "concern trolling" after being called out...
Richard, you're not fooling anyone. You know about the cheating scene and you know what it's really about. The only reason you won't touch the topic is because you're scared what will come out.
I've exposed more cheating and matchfixing than any other esports journalist. I'm calling you mentally ill because you think everyone you interact with about this topic is me.
You should quit with what you’re doing. You’re not a player, you don’t care about the game. Never had never will. You’re not even wanted here and not a single player in the cs community looks up to you. Just fuck off already yeah?
The two biggest cheats developers said there are 10% cheaters so you have 100% chances to get at least one cheater every game but a cheater ofc play x3 hours or more than a legit(if still play) so is a total garbage. You want really reduce cheaters amount? So stop to give banned people chances to make new accounts otherwise enjoy what you deserve
I wonder what you think about the cheating problem in TF2, are you still as obtusely stubborn about an actually unplayable game? TF2 is living proof that Valve doesn't care.
"You are yapping, you are glazing, you are doing tricks on it, blud might also be waffling and every other regurgitated, calorie-free phrase the braindead utter on loop." I cannot effectively articulate how cathartic it was to read that line. I hate how watered down and lazy "conversations" get by people just spewing whatever the current trendy phrases are to insult people as if it's high school again. It's a minor aside to the overall point, but it definitely doesn't help elevate the discussion of the state of CS2. You get a cheer from me every time I hear you point out how braindead people are with "retorts" these days.
First of all ... really good article, and I really like how you went into numbers and to me this is really interesting to see and to read.
Dunning-Kruger effect was a really nice touch, I can totally relate to that being myself a CS / Valorant player for a very long time (21k+ ration/Fcit lvl 10 etc. 8k hours in game). Anyways, numbers really feel totally different from feel in the game itself.
Yes CS2 looks/feels better then CSGO on release that's correct, and yes they were really quick to fix all those small issues/glitches and performance issues.
But I have one question. Have you actually played CS GO and CS2. Sure, numbers say it's not a biggie every game has it. Back until the latest wave of VAC ... CS2 premier was unplayable. If you go over 18/20k it's almost every second game there's a cheater. Sure, I stumbled upon cheaters playing all these games but that often. And it was not just one, whole stacks of them, spinning, jumping, giving HS from spawn. I don't care how this compares (tbh) to Valorant, my subjective opinion as someone with experience both in gamedev and CS that game was almost unplayable because of VAC basically doing nothing it was a cheating sprea. No matter what kind of numbers you bring, it's a bit insulting towards player that actually play and feel the game to say "ah, it's a common thing to have cheaters ... chill, he's better than you"
Now to Valorant :) Sure you have cheaters there, but it feels like the system is working (at least to me). Each time someone was being suspicious game was interrupted/canceled and we go back and play a new one. Compare this to having to sit there, being humiliated by a kid with cheat and waiting for 30/45min to match finishes - and on top of that we loose elo. Where are numbers now?
"Compare this to having to sit there, being humiliated by a kid with cheat and waiting for 30/45min to match finishes - and on top of that we loose elo. Where are numbers now?"
Remeber guys, the people getting upset over talk about cheaters while actively gaslighting anyone who has experienced it is taking this personal and is almost certainly a cheater themselves.
I can't imagine how anyone can get excited to go home and play a shooting game where you already know the exact position of your enemies.
1. study this post
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/1cr7az3/premier_ratings_plotted_against_smokes_per/
2. realize the one affected by the Dunning-Kruger Effect is you
What did he write that makes you think that he misinterpretated this type of graphic?
For one "Patrick", the util regression starts at 15k.
Richa ... ahem, Patrick, the amount of cheaters using multiple accounts places them all over the map in terms of MM rank. Many cheaters buy accounts that are already ranked low so they can enjoy the "Smurf" status before they rank into lobbies of their actual "rank" which is comprised of other closet cheaters like themselves and the eventual "ragers" who dominate the upper echelons of MM.
If you understand that closet cheaters are the real problem and Valve still can't make a dent against people raging, then where is the hope for the casual who wants to play against others fairly?
It's just not there.
Yes, the util regression starts at 15k. What did he write that makes you think that he misinterpretated this type of graphic?
"namely that until you are playing in the very upper echelons of Premier encountering cheaters is a statistical outlier."
15K would be the middle of the ranking system that extends to ranking people to 30k.
Everything above 15k still consists of only 3% of all the players. All his points are still valid.
Also the phrasing "statistical outlier" implies that there are cheaters before 20k elo, just that you are not as likely to encounter them. I guess the point where it is statistically likely to encounter cheaters is arguable, but ultimately doesn't really matter.
Another alt.
Been a fan for a decade, this is your worst article by far. Absolutely delusional that you can be this ignorant towards the cheating situation despite not playing the game at all.
Defending Valve this much for a literal unplayable game (especially at high ranks, which is the literal goal of premier) is just ridiculous. They don’t deserve any praise.
sick reply bozo
Thanks bro <3
“Literally unplayable game” other guy is right, you’re a clown, or you don’t know what “literal” means. In any case you’re what Richard described, one of the many idiots who complain too much while ignoring everything Valve did.
It's clear to me how unethical you are.
“Insert random insult here” that’s how your sub-chatgpt-brain operates but again, pity I gave someone like you any attention, you’re not worth it.
Day in and day out Richard you continue to prove just how out of touch you are with the people that play counter strike. It’s evident you don’t play counter strike and do not intend do play counter strike due to the narratives you construct. Perhaps it’s time to move onto writing about more relevant subjects in your life, perhaps a blog about your journey in pursuing greater mental health.
Based on this reply I think you should be concerned with your own mental health. Which part of the article did you specifically disagree with because it appears you didn't read it.
Richard, you ever look at a politician and hear a bunch of bullshit that sounds like excuses and come to the conclusion they're out of touch?
That's you right now.
No you’re just the type of idiot he described. Go read the article. Maybe that’s why you’re upset.
I did. Turns out it was as shit as you
Nuanced conversation on a popular reddit page about a contentious topic, challenge impossible.
The main reason for this is pretty simple in my eyes: cheaters get off on trolling the community by gaslighting
Let me know how many admitted closet cheaters you've come across. You know they exist, but they never are honest about it since that's the entire point. You lie that you're better while using cheats.
It’s pretty obvious by your many replies here that you live in your own alternate reality where 90% of players are cheaters. As the kids say: go touch some grass.
Dude, why are you alting your own comment section.
Fuck, it's cringe.
Why the fuck would I need to do that you fucking weirdo? Across here and Reddit you've accused like 5 people of being me. See a doctor.
The irony of someone who has made open their own battle with mental health now "concern trolling" after being called out...
Richard, you're not fooling anyone. You know about the cheating scene and you know what it's really about. The only reason you won't touch the topic is because you're scared what will come out.
Pity i gave such a lunatic any of my attention. People like this are the reason why the internet’s shitty.
I've exposed more cheating and matchfixing than any other esports journalist. I'm calling you mentally ill because you think everyone you interact with about this topic is me.
You should quit with what you’re doing. You’re not a player, you don’t care about the game. Never had never will. You’re not even wanted here and not a single player in the cs community looks up to you. Just fuck off already yeah?
The two biggest cheats developers said there are 10% cheaters so you have 100% chances to get at least one cheater every game but a cheater ofc play x3 hours or more than a legit(if still play) so is a total garbage. You want really reduce cheaters amount? So stop to give banned people chances to make new accounts otherwise enjoy what you deserve
Cheat developers lie all the time because it's in their business interests. Anyone who believes their numbers is a fool.
4.5 million VACs in a pool of 31 million in CSstats front page.
The data doesn't lie.
Even if those numbers were accurate VAC bans are not just for CS so it is a moot data point.
You're such a a bloody apologista.
I'm winning, Richard:
https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1dbe4jn/4500000_accounts_have_been_caught_cheating_out_of/
I wonder what you think about the cheating problem in TF2, are you still as obtusely stubborn about an actually unplayable game? TF2 is living proof that Valve doesn't care.
You have to wonder how long Richard can keep all this up before he breaks mentally.
It's like watching Baghdad Bob.
"You are yapping, you are glazing, you are doing tricks on it, blud might also be waffling and every other regurgitated, calorie-free phrase the braindead utter on loop." I cannot effectively articulate how cathartic it was to read that line. I hate how watered down and lazy "conversations" get by people just spewing whatever the current trendy phrases are to insult people as if it's high school again. It's a minor aside to the overall point, but it definitely doesn't help elevate the discussion of the state of CS2. You get a cheer from me every time I hear you point out how braindead people are with "retorts" these days.
Aged like fucking milk already. What a fucking joke of an article. You got paid by Valve to write this garbage?
He is an idiot that alts to give himself supporters.
By far your worst article. There is a reason faceit exists.
First of all ... really good article, and I really like how you went into numbers and to me this is really interesting to see and to read.
Dunning-Kruger effect was a really nice touch, I can totally relate to that being myself a CS / Valorant player for a very long time (21k+ ration/Fcit lvl 10 etc. 8k hours in game). Anyways, numbers really feel totally different from feel in the game itself.
Yes CS2 looks/feels better then CSGO on release that's correct, and yes they were really quick to fix all those small issues/glitches and performance issues.
But I have one question. Have you actually played CS GO and CS2. Sure, numbers say it's not a biggie every game has it. Back until the latest wave of VAC ... CS2 premier was unplayable. If you go over 18/20k it's almost every second game there's a cheater. Sure, I stumbled upon cheaters playing all these games but that often. And it was not just one, whole stacks of them, spinning, jumping, giving HS from spawn. I don't care how this compares (tbh) to Valorant, my subjective opinion as someone with experience both in gamedev and CS that game was almost unplayable because of VAC basically doing nothing it was a cheating sprea. No matter what kind of numbers you bring, it's a bit insulting towards player that actually play and feel the game to say "ah, it's a common thing to have cheaters ... chill, he's better than you"
Now to Valorant :) Sure you have cheaters there, but it feels like the system is working (at least to me). Each time someone was being suspicious game was interrupted/canceled and we go back and play a new one. Compare this to having to sit there, being humiliated by a kid with cheat and waiting for 30/45min to match finishes - and on top of that we loose elo. Where are numbers now?
"Compare this to having to sit there, being humiliated by a kid with cheat and waiting for 30/45min to match finishes - and on top of that we loose elo. Where are numbers now?"
Great summation
Richard, remember how you got VAC'd?
Remeber guys, the people getting upset over talk about cheaters while actively gaslighting anyone who has experienced it is taking this personal and is almost certainly a cheater themselves.
I can't imagine how anyone can get excited to go home and play a shooting game where you already know the exact position of your enemies.